I have this chip and I want to upgrade my ram but I'm not sure whether I can even use the full 3600mhz or If I should buy a slightly slower kit e.g the 3200mhz mobo = ROG STRIX B450 F GAMING
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Hi @OrdJk Here are the specs for your particular mobo:
AMD Ryzen™ 2nd Generation/ Ryzen™ 1st Generation Processors
3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ Processors Max. 128GB, DDR4 Unless you plan on upgrading to a 3k series Ryzen, go with 3200. If you plan on upgrading, then get faster RAM. Your mobo will underclock your RAM to the speed it supports for the processor that's installed.
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Hi @OrdJk Here are the specs for your particular mobo:
AMD Ryzen™ 2nd Generation/ Ryzen™ 1st Generation Processors
3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ Processors Max. 128GB, DDR4 Unless you plan on upgrading to a 3k series Ryzen, go with 3200. If you plan on upgrading, then get faster RAM. Your mobo will underclock your RAM to the speed it supports for the processor that's installed.
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If both are cl16, get the 3600. But, remember you might not even get 3200. Ryzen 2nd gen supports 2666mhz ram offically, and everything else is an overclock.
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You didn't state which generation processor you have and that affects the max OVERCLOCKABLE speed. A 3rd gen processor's maximum guaranteed speed is 2666MHz and the 2nd and 1st gen processors' maximum guaranteed speed is als 2666MHz while the max overclockable speed is 3600MHz and 3200MHz respectively. Overclocking is not guaranteed to work at any speed because it is dependent on the specific processor and motherboard silicone you have. So it's not possible to say which to use.
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He did in his title. He has a 2700x. And true about OC'ing but should also note tho that it OC's the RAM but not the processor. His 2700x will have his RAM @ 3200 (or whichever speed he manually sets it to) but his CPU will stay at the stock 3.7ghz. (unless he OC's his CPU too of course) If he does nothing, then his RAM might default to 2400mhz. It won't just magically set itself to DDR4-3200 (or faster) just because it's installed and the package states DDR4-xxxx.
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the ryzen 7 2700x officially has a max of 2933mhz, but you can use 3200mhz, a few people have got up to 3400mhz and 3600mhz, overclocked. but they were using x470 and x570 boards. you , can buy 3600mhz, but just run it at 2933mhz/3200mhz. Reactions: drea.drechsler Page 2
I built my pc last year and its been working almost perfect, but recently it has been overheating and shutting down my pc even though I reduced its max preformance state (currently at 70%), cleaned the heatsink, and replaced the thermal paste. The light next to the cpu will go red than white and green as the pc shuts down than immediately turns back on. Using the cooler master hyper 212 cpu air cooler. Any suggestions?
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I have same mobo, red light is from CPU, yellow(orange) is DRAM, white is GPU and green is boot.
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Just two things to know-What is power supply unit are you using? Also how old is your rig?
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The rig is one year old the psu is the thermaltake toughpower grand rgb 750w and it’s like 3 months old and im pretty sure the bios settings are default i will double check in the morning thou Last edited: Sep 28, 2020
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which mobo you have, did you overclock the cpu, changing voltages or anything else in BIOS?
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The motherboard is the Asus Rog Strix b450-f gaming and all of the buos are default
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I have same mobo, red light is from CPU, yellow(orange) is DRAM, white is GPU and green is boot.
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Ok ill try that
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hi, just a quick question,but did the overheating and shutting down issues start from the moment your changed your power supply? if some maybe you should check the "8pin" to the motherboard is pressed in fully. if the mother board is only getting power from 4 of the 8 pins ,it could cause issues. and sometimes fail to boot properly. .. also checkout this video link, it might help .. https://www.asus.com/uk/support/FAQ/1042678 Page 3
Hi. I was wondering what would fit a motherboard I have but be an i5 variant of what it requires, the i7-4790. Last edited: Oct 4, 2020
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Yes, that's the i5-4690, which like your i7-4790, is an LGA (Land Grid Array) 1150 processor that fits in your 4th generation motherboard's 1150 pin socket. However, that's not a wise purchase from Amazon for $205.98. The same processor is available on ebay for as little as $65.99. Here's a link: ebay i5-4690 Purchasing an unlocked "K" variant from ebay would be a considerable risk, since there's no way to know whether the processor has been overclocked, overvolted or otherwise thermally abused, thereby compromising stability and longevity. Conversely, a locked processor is typically used in office or home computing environments, where it quite likely has not been abused, as it can not be overclocked. As such, purchasing a used or pre-owned locked Intel processor would be a minimal risk, as many ebay sellers, like in the above link, offer free returns as well as free shipping.CT Reactions: Rynn21
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Oof, that's just as expensive. I was trying not to spend as much as the i7.
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i5-4670 Turbo Frequency 3.8 GHz i5-4590 TDP 84 Watts Base Frequency 3.3 GHz Turbo Frequency 3.7 GHz i5-4570 TDP 84 Watts Base Frequency 3.2 GHz Turbo Frequency 3.6 GHz i5-4460 TDP 84 Watts Base Frequency 3.2 GHz Turbo Frequency 3.4 GHz i5-4440 TDP 84 Watts Base Frequency 3.1 GHz Turbo Frequency 3.3 GHz i5-4430 TDP 84 Watts Base Frequency 3.0 GHz Turbo Frequency 3.2 GHz
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Yes, that's the i5-4690, which like your i7-4790, is an LGA (Land Grid Array) 1150 processor that fits in your 4th generation motherboard's 1150 pin socket. However, that's not a wise purchase from Amazon for $205.98. The same processor is available on ebay for as little as $65.99. Here's a link: ebay i5-4690 Purchasing an unlocked "K" variant from ebay would be a considerable risk, since there's no way to know whether the processor has been overclocked, overvolted or otherwise thermally abused, thereby compromising stability and longevity. Conversely, a locked processor is typically used in office or home computing environments, where it quite likely has not been abused, as it can not be overclocked. As such, purchasing a used or pre-owned locked Intel processor would be a minimal risk, as many ebay sellers, like in the above link, offer free returns as well as free shipping.CT Reactions: Rynn21
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Thank you so much. You're a saint I'm trying to find the best deal for a customer. I have the XPS, but have since taken out the i7 and bought a new motherboard for my fiance's computer to make it nice and speedy. Cause of that though, I need a few parts to make the half shell work haha.Page 4 I've had this problem for little over half a year now and it's with my cpu. Anytime I play any game or even go on chrome or anything that would use cpu usage it uses way more than it should, I.e. If Chrome usually uses 10% it will be at about 20% or even 30%. When playing games I know I could run it will be at 100% usage in task manager even though I know the game shouldn't be enough to bottleneck my cpu Specs:
Motherboard: asus z170-a lga 1151
Cpu: Intel i5 6600k Skylake
Gpu: nvidia gtx 980 ti
Ram: 16 gbs (2x8) ddr4 2400 mhz
Hdd: not sure but 1tb regular hard drive SSolutions I've tried:
Changing battery mode
Reinstalling os
Factory resetting pc
Changing in games settings
Updated gpu drivers
Updated motherboard bios drivers I have not touched much but slight fan speed in bios because I'm not 100% sure what I'm doing and I haven't oc'd my cpu because I don't wanna mess it up. If you coukd help please let me know.
Thanks
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What games are you playing that you're so such it doesn't bottleneck your CPU?
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Well it happens on fortnite mainly, pretty much any game on my steam library. And since my battery mode is on prefer maximum performance my cpu says it's running 3.9ghz and my Temps are like 40-50C while playing Page 5
Build Specs: Intel i7 6700k NZXT Kraken M22 120mm AIO ASUS Z170-A Motherboard Crucial Ballistix 4x4 16GB DDR4-2400mhz Ram Nvidia Geforce GTX 980ti 6x120mm Case Fans Corsair 1200W Platinum Certified 80+ PSU (Yes overkill on the PSU, had 2x980ti's at the time of the build 4 years ago.) NZXT H440 Case First when I boot the computer and go into the Bios, CPU will run around 50-70c with AIO Pump at full speed. After I boot the computer and restart, I will get CPU overtemp and computer won't run until it's fully cooled. Things I've looked into so far: I checked the NZXT M22 AIO (pump is located in the radiator itself for this model), I began to notice a metallic rattling sound and after lots of troubleshooting with NZXT and on my own --shaking the pump, relocating the pump so that it's at the bottom of the loop, try to shift air bubbles, check the push and pull of the fans to be sure of proper intake, feel the tubes and yes one is definitely colder than the other hotter tube so I believe that the pump is working properly and the bubbles are just an audible (not-concerning) issue with AIO. -- So I don't think the AIO is the issue. I have reseated the AIO head on the CPU and re-applied thermal paste, and believe that the head is seated properly. Tweaked bios settings and checked Tom's hardware for some solutions to reduce heat and load of CPU and I ended up disabling Hyperthreading in the bios. Ran AIDA64 and CPU consistently thermal throttles nearly 100c sometimes over, Prime95 had no issues or crashes. Thermal Throttling is my main issue, and I mean the computer runs... but not well at all and I frequently have issues when launching games and apps and the computer will stutter and sometimes freeze but always recover, but while it does this, the computer is essentially useless until that application fully launches or loads. I'd also like to preface that I am not the most tech savvy, I mean I research things and try to find answers to my problems, but I am not at all super knowledgeable and understanding of what all is happening. I am also in the market for a new pc (once I can get my f***in hands on a 3080) but until then I don't want to give up on this computer, and potentially still use it after I build a new one.
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Your Pump is dying , simple as that. A wore out or defective pump has back flow of water & its not pushing water, Hence the Hot Tube remain hot, the water isnt going into the radiator, the tube going back into CPU is of course much Colder as there wasn't any or much warm water going in. Setting a non-functioning pump to max speed isn't gonna help. Even with xxxxxx or no thermal paste your CPU won't be 70c on boot so that wasn't the issue. You're basically cooling your CPU with just the Pump block and the little bit of water in it and the tube. The vibrating of the Tube as i said, its the back flow, a working pump should give constant pressure to push water out, but in your case the pump push the water, but maybe a few impeller etc are broke, so water is push back into pump, giving you the illusion water is being push around, in fact it's not. <MODERATOR EDIT> PROFANITY IS STRICTLY FORBIDDEN, and is a BANNING OFFENSE !!! Tom's is a family friendly website; please respect the sensibilities of others! Last edited by a moderator: Oct 4, 2020
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So even though the AIO tubes are vibrating and feel though they are circulating out the hot liquid its still bad? Would the pump not be working fast enough or the air still obstructing enough liquid from passing through?
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Does the radiator warm up after a while?
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Nope... Now that you've mentioned that, I'd assume that if the pump was working properly than it would be getting hotter and properly dissipating the hot air from the cpu. So it must be that the hot air has nowhere to go and its keeping the cpu hot.
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Your Pump is dying , simple as that. A wore out or defective pump has back flow of water & its not pushing water, Hence the Hot Tube remain hot, the water isnt going into the radiator, the tube going back into CPU is of course much Colder as there wasn't any or much warm water going in. Setting a non-functioning pump to max speed isn't gonna help. Even with xxxxxx or no thermal paste your CPU won't be 70c on boot so that wasn't the issue. You're basically cooling your CPU with just the Pump block and the little bit of water in it and the tube. The vibrating of the Tube as i said, its the back flow, a working pump should give constant pressure to push water out, but in your case the pump push the water, but maybe a few impeller etc are broke, so water is push back into pump, giving you the illusion water is being push around, in fact it's not. <MODERATOR EDIT> PROFANITY IS STRICTLY FORBIDDEN, and is a BANNING OFFENSE !!! Tom's is a family friendly website; please respect the sensibilities of others! Last edited by a moderator: Oct 4, 2020 Page 6
i have a320m-k and amd ryzen 5 3500x and it only shows 4 cores and 4 threads both on msconfig and taskmanager
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Do what I said in MSConfig earlier: clear the checkbox beside Number of Processors. That commonly happens with a change of processor in a window's installation. Also be sure to install the AMD chipset drivers. So, that should fix the problem with not using all your cores but you're quite likely going to have more problems if you don't do a fresh install of Windows. If it doesn't fix it then you will absolutely have to fresh install to do so. Last edited: Oct 4, 2020
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Have you checked BIOS settings that no cores have been disabled? In MSConfig it shouldn't show 4 cores. In the BOOT tab, Advanced button it should have the "Number of processors" box unchecked with a grayed out '1' showing in the list box. Is your BIOS up-to-date? that would be at least rev 5007 for a 3500X processor. Last edited: Oct 2, 2020
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im not sure how to check if my bios is up to date but yes thats where I checked how many cores my pc is running at
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Was this Windows installation freshly installed with this mainboard and CPU, or, perhaps a previously used installation with an earlier mainboard/CPU?
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actually my windows didnt get a fresh install after replacing it because my friend said my old windows was already compatible. my old specs coincidentally had 4 cores and 4 threads too so that might be the problem
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When you change the motherboard you need to do a fresh windows install. Your friend is not helping you.
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Do what I said in MSConfig earlier: clear the checkbox beside Number of Processors. That commonly happens with a change of processor in a window's installation. Also be sure to install the AMD chipset drivers. So, that should fix the problem with not using all your cores but you're quite likely going to have more problems if you don't do a fresh install of Windows. If it doesn't fix it then you will absolutely have to fresh install to do so. Last edited: Oct 4, 2020
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Agree, all Bios and settings aside. Reinstall Windows. It does happen that it doesn't recognize the new cores when upgrading. Page 7 Hi, so recently I decided to upgrade my GPU and CPU to a RTX 2060 and a Ryzen 5 2600. I checked the compatibility of these two with my motherboard (ASRock X370 Killer SLI/ac) and besides needing a BIOS update to 4.60 or higher (currently at version 4.80), it said everything else should be okay. After about a day and a half of fiddling around with my PC and buying and applying some new thermal paste onto my CPU, my PC finally turned on. However, when I went to run a game, about 3 minutes into the game running, my PC crashed and my CPU was extremely hot. I tried this again, but with a less graphically intense game just in case I went a bit overboard, still the same result. Although my CPU came with paste already on it, I reapplied some new paste (Corsair TM30) and tried tightening my CPU cooler to my CPU once again. However, once again I still got the same result of my PC shutting off. I came here looking for some help, as at this point im pretty lost and need some guidance. The only thing I thought was a bit odd was that the four sockets where I screw in my CPU cooler seemed extremely loose, to the point where two of the screws can even come out of the holes. However, when screwed in, everything seems sturdy and unmovable. (PS: I aplogize in advance for my lack of computer knowledge, this is my first time putting together a PC, however I try to do my research on things I dont know about). The specs for my PC are as follows:
Motherboard: ASRock x370 Killer SLI/ac
CPU: Ryzen 5 2600 6C 12T 65W AM4 w/Wraith Stealth Cooler
GPU: EVGA 6GB GeForce RTX 2060 KO Ultra Gaming Dual Fans Graphics Card
If you need any other information or even pictures, ill gladly provide it!
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What temperature was your CPU getting to? Can you try a better cooler?
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I dont have a better cooler readily available on me sadly, but my CPU was getting up to 72 degrees Celsius and was hitting 100% usage if that helps in any way.
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It still could be the problem. Your CPU was hot. The wraith coolers aren't that good. Certainly not if you're overclocking the CPU. And you did say it was running at 100% usage.
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ah okay, is their any coolers that you could recommend to me that are affordable and better for my processor
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Wait. Did anyone notice that the OP said it was "getting up to 72 C and 100% usage". That is not hot. That is a good target temperature at 100% usage considering you are using the stock Wraith Spire that comes with that Ryzen cpu. Am i missing something here? Your computer will not shut off at 72 C. At least, not because it overheated. Your PC will shut down if your Ryzen gets to 95 C. Is your reported temperature of 72 C accurate, OP? Last edited: Oct 3, 2020 Reactions: DMAN999
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I agree, The Stock Wraith will do it's job if installed properly and looking at 72C 100% load it is working as designed ,it is not even near throttle. It could be a PSU issue, when you game it draws more.
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Thank you a lot for your help! And yes, I completely agree that some of the parts are cheaper, however im planning to upgrade them over time as the outdated pc parts were just hand me down gifts from a friend.
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Hi, yes sorry I forgot to mention this, but it was hitting 72 C after I changed the paste and screwed my cooler back in, before that it was hitting much higher temperatures and shutting down
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I dont necessarily think it can be a power supply issue as that power supply is brand new, also I wouldnt expect my PC to kill the power supply that quickly?
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did you check the "amp's" for the graphics card. as if you dont have enough amps. your computer would crash,when entering games., aslo was there a blue screen when computer crashes. or just a reset/reboot.. also your using 1 stick of ram. ryzen normally recomends 2 sticks. make sure your ram is in the correct slot for 1 stick. normally "B2", this stops blues screen crashes. . 70'c temp is not super high under load. most ryzens have 85'c + before thermal throttling kicks in. (but changing from the "stealth" up to a spire or prism, if not overclocking. would help), if over clocking. a noctua 212, or AIO, (pump with 240mm radiatior)would be best option.
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I didnt say your PSU is broken, I'm saying as per STeveB above, that your PSU can't handle the draw. Page 8 Hello there. I had this i5 7600 3.5ghz since 2017 and turbo boost never worked for me. It is enabled in BIOS. I don't know what to do.
My motherboard is ASRock Z270 Pro4
http://prntscr.com/ut1dc5
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There's something usual here, your CPUID identify it as 7500 , your Task manager reports a 7600. BUT the base clock is 3.4ghz on 34X which is a 7500 and Not a 7600. You shouldn't be on 34X if you have a 7600, should be 35x/ 3.5ghz. Something is not set right in your BIOS. see your MAX boost clock is 3475ghz, that's exactly your 102.2 base clock X34. so it looks like you have configured your CPU wrongly in Bios. although u have enabled Turbo boost, but you must have set the multiplier wrong BOTH in base clock and Boost settings.
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was it upgrade? did you do a fresh os install for it? what under system info? do a stress test?
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There's something usual here, your CPUID identify it as 7500 , your Task manager reports a 7600. BUT the base clock is 3.4ghz on 34X which is a 7500 and Not a 7600. You shouldn't be on 34X if you have a 7600, should be 35x/ 3.5ghz. Something is not set right in your BIOS. see your MAX boost clock is 3475ghz, that's exactly your 102.2 base clock X34. so it looks like you have configured your CPU wrongly in Bios. although u have enabled Turbo boost, but you must have set the multiplier wrong BOTH in base clock and Boost settings. Page 9
i cant choose between these 2 cpus the 10700k for $569 the 10850k for $639 i have eliminated the other cpus including the 10900k for $749 it just doesnt seem like a good deal. sorry amd fan boys i am not interested in amd's horrible products and/or service. ok back to the intel situation i bought a asus tuf z490 plus wifi motherboard and i will be buying a asus tuf rtx3080 when i can get my hands on one. according to userbenchmark the 10850k overall only about 2% faster than the 10700k but about 8% in workstation tasks.
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Honestly with that small of a price delta I would go with the 10850K. Sounds like you are going to spend somewhere in the neighborhood of $1500 between CPU / Mobo / GPU, so that little extra $70 on CPU to get an extra 5-10% breathing room makes total sense. Below links to a TPU review's aggregated overall performance numbers for the 10850K vs other CPUs reviewed across a bunch of tests. The 10850K did really well. Individual tests are earlier in the review: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-10850k/22.html
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thats in USD not canadian dollars and doesnt account for duties and fees as well as exchange rate or shipping costs. also its not a canadian company or a local company so if i have a issue with the product i have to ship it back to the USA
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Honestly with that small of a price delta I would go with the 10850K. Sounds like you are going to spend somewhere in the neighborhood of $1500 between CPU / Mobo / GPU, so that little extra $70 on CPU to get an extra 5-10% breathing room makes total sense. Below links to a TPU review's aggregated overall performance numbers for the 10850K vs other CPUs reviewed across a bunch of tests. The 10850K did really well. Individual tests are earlier in the review: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-10850k/22.html
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yea i bought the gpu for $250 canadian, gpu is $1000 canadian, cpu at 639 canadian . 70$ is not alot over a 10700k and availability has been good lately Page 10
Is there any big difference between r yzen 5 3600 and 2600?
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The 3600 tends to be around 20% faster in CPU-limited scenarios at stock clocks, due to it running at slightly higher clocks and being able to run around 15% more instructions per clock on average. Overclocking the 2600 can bring it within about 15%. Of course, whether that extra performance is worth it could depend on what exactly you want to do with the system, and whether that price difference would be better put toward something like graphics hardware instead. At this point though, unless you need a new system immediately, it might be worth waiting a bit to see what AMD's next generation of CPUs has to offer, as they should be announcing them later this week. Rumor has it they might potentially be over 15% faster again. It will likely be some weeks before they are available for purchase though. Right now, Ryzen 3600 pricing doesn't tend to be as good as it was this summer, probably due to AMD cutting production as they focus on manufacturing the new models. At least looking at US prices, it's currently around the $200 price it launched for last year, whereas it was typically available for around $175 or less for most of this year. I suspect they will likely price a new, faster 6-core, 12-thread part at about the same $200 price point. You might also consider one of Intel's current "10th gen" i5 processors, as CPUs like the i5-10400f also offer 6-cores with 12-threads, with performance that's usually relatively similar to the 3600, but potentially available for a lower price at this time. Again though, it may be worth waiting to see what AMD's new CPUs bring to the table, and even if you don't go with one of them, we will probably see 3600 pricing drop again.
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The 3600 is definitely a faster CPU. How much faster depends on what software you are using. Your GPU makes a difference as to how much faster when comparing games. Read this: https://www.techspot.com/review/1968-ryzen-3600-vs-2600-gaming-scaling/
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The 3600 tends to be around 20% faster in CPU-limited scenarios at stock clocks, due to it running at slightly higher clocks and being able to run around 15% more instructions per clock on average. Overclocking the 2600 can bring it within about 15%. Of course, whether that extra performance is worth it could depend on what exactly you want to do with the system, and whether that price difference would be better put toward something like graphics hardware instead. At this point though, unless you need a new system immediately, it might be worth waiting a bit to see what AMD's next generation of CPUs has to offer, as they should be announcing them later this week. Rumor has it they might potentially be over 15% faster again. It will likely be some weeks before they are available for purchase though. Right now, Ryzen 3600 pricing doesn't tend to be as good as it was this summer, probably due to AMD cutting production as they focus on manufacturing the new models. At least looking at US prices, it's currently around the $200 price it launched for last year, whereas it was typically available for around $175 or less for most of this year. I suspect they will likely price a new, faster 6-core, 12-thread part at about the same $200 price point. You might also consider one of Intel's current "10th gen" i5 processors, as CPUs like the i5-10400f also offer 6-cores with 12-threads, with performance that's usually relatively similar to the 3600, but potentially available for a lower price at this time. Again though, it may be worth waiting to see what AMD's new CPUs bring to the table, and even if you don't go with one of them, we will probably see 3600 pricing drop again.
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It's a pretty noticeable difference. Here is one comparison between the two in benchmarks. The 3600 is about 40 dollars more, and that makes it roughly 26% more expensive. The performance is (very) roughly around 15-20% more. So the performance increase may not scale with the price in a 1 to 1 ratio. At least not on paper if you are using the above comparison. Several youtube videos show a practical increase on the higher end of that range. But the 3600, and the 3600x, more-so, are often considered the pinnacle of Ryzen 3000 series bang for the buck. And in comparing it to the 2000 series counterpart, I think it reasonably maintains its spot as one of the best overall values for the Ryzen processors to date.
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It depends on your gpu and monitor. With your gtx 1060, you wouldnt notice that much difference between the two cpus. If you're gaming on 60hz to 75hz 1080p with no intention to upgrade for the next 3 or more years, the 2600 will be enough. I'm currently using the 2600 overclocked to on my 75hz monitor paired up with my gtx 980ti and almost every games is able to achieve 75fps stable. The 3600 price is quite high now so i would get a ryzen 7 2700x if it's cheaper. Reactions: DMAN999
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The 3300X is also faster (at all games) than the 2600/2600X... You can replace it with a 5600 a few months down the road if on a B450/B550 with a BIOS that supports the next gen coming out this month....
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Yeah it's faster but it has less cores. I still think overall the 2600 will be better and more futureproof. Most games now utilise 4 cores but no telling what the future holds. As i said, with the gtx 1060 the cpu difference wont be noticeable but the 3300x usage is higher than 2600 in cpu intensive games due to the limitations of 4 cores. Page 11 I have a F2A68HM - S1 mobo with and A8 6600k processor and wanted to upgrade it to i5 4th gen.. will it fit to the socket or not? thanks
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No. You have an AMD board. An Intel CPU is not compatible with it. You'd need a new board. Reactions: xtiansobe
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No. You have an AMD board. An Intel CPU is not compatible with it. You'd need a new board. Reactions: xtiansobe Page 12 I'm building a ryzen system for gaming, streaming as well as video editing and some 3d work. I just wanted to know if could get good performance out of the Ryzen 2600 or 2600 x variant. I know the 3600 is out now and I'm not sure it's in my budget at the moment. I just wanted to know if the 2600 was still a good choice as it's cheaper and is still a 6 core 12 thread cpu. Any advice is much appreciated.
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The 2600 is definitely not a bad CPU. But whether or not it is the right choice partially depends on your graphics card. A weaker CPU can throttle high end graphics card performance slightly. A 2600 is competent for gaming on a budget, but the difference between the 2600 and the 3600 for gaming is huge, especially when noting that the latter is just $40-50 more in price. Additionally, when doing video editing and streaming, there would be a noticeable improvement. Take a look at this comparison. Keep in mind that single core performance is most critical for gaming, while multi-core is critical for your other needs.Also keep in mind that Ryzen is about to announce their 4000 series processors in a mere 4 days. After the announcement, a release is expected in a matter of, possibly, two weeks after the announcement. That means that a 4600 CPU is about to be released, and will undoubtedly be in the price range of the 2600-3600. The performance jump between generations is expected to be far higher than between previous generations. Last edited: Oct 4, 2020 Reactions: jmortega94
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The 2600 should be OK. If you aren't do anything epic then it will be fine. Reactions: jmortega94
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The 2600 is definitely not a bad CPU. But whether or not it is the right choice partially depends on your graphics card. A weaker CPU can throttle high end graphics card performance slightly. A 2600 is competent for gaming on a budget, but the difference between the 2600 and the 3600 for gaming is huge, especially when noting that the latter is just $40-50 more in price. Additionally, when doing video editing and streaming, there would be a noticeable improvement. Take a look at this comparison. Keep in mind that single core performance is most critical for gaming, while multi-core is critical for your other needs.Also keep in mind that Ryzen is about to announce their 4000 series processors in a mere 4 days. After the announcement, a release is expected in a matter of, possibly, two weeks after the announcement. That means that a 4600 CPU is about to be released, and will undoubtedly be in the price range of the 2600-3600. The performance jump between generations is expected to be far higher than between previous generations. Last edited: Oct 4, 2020 Reactions: jmortega94
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What video card are you pairing it with? and what motherboard? 2600 is still quite good, and 2600X even better. Reactions: jmortega94
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That sounds a bit better again. Page 13 Where i live i can get the i5-10400f for 170$ but the R5 3600 is 210$. Motherboard prices are also a little bit higher for the AMD side. Basically
i5-10400f
B460 Aorus Pro
16GB 2666mhz memory(because its limited to that speed) all for 350$ ( can even get it for 320$ if i buy the cheapest motherboard) or
Ryzen 5 3600
16GB 3200mhz memory
The cheapest B450 motherboard that supports 3600 out of the box all for 420$ I have a budget of about 400$
I can even get a
i5-10400f
Gigabyite z490m
16gb of 3200Mhz all for 400$
but i also wanted a new case. If i got the 1st build i would have enough for a case.Is the intel stock cooler sufficient because i cant overclock that i5. Thanks Last edited: Oct 4, 2020
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Those two CPUs are quite close at UserBenchmark. And watch what memory you buy -- insure that it is compatible with the motherboard and CPU that you buy by checking on the motherboard manufacturer website.
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Add an aftermarket cooler to both of those - if you want more 'comfortable' thermals, and the 10400F is still within your budget. Reactions: RealBeast
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Those two CPUs are quite close at UserBenchmark. And watch what memory you buy -- insure that it is compatible with the motherboard and CPU that you buy by checking on the motherboard manufacturer website.
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whatever CPU you pick, you should keep saving and buy a better motherboard. Don't buy the cheapest available because you may have problems in the future.
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In the end i went a little bit over my budget and got a r5 3600 and msi tomahawk max and hyperx cl16 3200 ram Page 14 I recently change my gpu from gtx 650 1gb to the sapphire rx570 4gb. Prior to changing it, I was able to change the "CPU frequency", originally it was at 100, I was able to change it above that value. However with the rx570 4gb I wasn't able to boot , i had to clear the cmos to get it to boot.
CPU: Athlon II x4 641
Motherboard: GA-A55-S3P rev 2.1
Ram: hynix ddr3 4gb
SSD/HDD: micron 500gb ssd
GPU: Sapphire RX570 4gb
PSU: m2 silent pro cooler master 620w about 8 years old
Case: 1st player fire dancing v6
OS: Windows 10 pro . version 2004View: http://imgur.com/gallery/kR8YbMc Last edited: Oct 4, 2020
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We're going to need more information. Please include your system's specs like so: CPU: Motherboard: Ram: SSD/HDD: GPU: PSU: Case: OS: Include the age of your PSU as well. Did you uninstall your Nvidia GPU drivers(using DDU) prior to removing the Nvidia GPU and then plonking in the AMD GPU?
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i did uninstall the Nvidia drivers before replacing the gtx 650 with the rx570 Last edited: Oct 4, 2020
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Are there other way to OC my cpu? changing the multiplier and voltage dosen't affect any benchmark performance. But CPU-Z shows 2992.32mhz when i change the multiplier to ×30 from ×28 Last edited: Oct 4, 2020
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CPU frequency=multiplier*FSB. Those couple hundred MHz of OC is not going to change much performance and even less if CPU hits higher temperatures because of it. Only real way to OC is with multiplier providing you have good enough cooling. You can tune it a bit more with FSB but if your BIOS supports it and you set PCIe and memory bus to static 100.
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For some reason after swapping out the gtx 650 with the rx570 it doesn't allow me to change the FSB, sadly in the bios i do no have the option to change the PCIe frequency. But the weird thing is before i took the gtx 650 out, changing the FSB was possible. I changed it from 100 to 110 and my benchmark on cinebench improved quite a fair bit.
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Raising the bus will adjust other hardware clocks at the same time (eg. memory, pcie). You need to reevaluate your OC stability since you have changed hardware. I suggest OC-ing using bus x multiplier at the same time to get better result, it's always the multiplier that gives more than the bus as the bus causes more stability problems than the multiplier AFAIK. EDIT: I'm not too familiar with FM1/FM2 cpus but I have Athlon and Phenom AM3/AM3+ socket.. make sure it's unlocked because if it's not you'll be relying too much on bus overclock instead of multiplier, that'll lead to stability issues for sure if you get too far from the stock frequency. I have a Phenom II x4 955 Black Edition (quad core) and it's unlocked that's the reason why I can freely overclock my CPU up to 4.0+ if i want. At the same time I have an Athlon II x2 255 which is not a good overclocker and is not an unlocked version. That's why it relies too much on bus overclock and doesn't get too far from 215 - 225 times the base multiplier. which is around 3.3 - 3.4 as a result. Last edited: Oct 4, 2020
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I tried raising the multiplier to ×34, on CPU-Z shows 3391.30mhz while task manager constantly shows 2.78ghz . When i tried to benchmark using superpi , geekbench or cinebench i see no improvement at all. The max i could bump it to was × 47 which too, did nothing. However the thermals increased but there is no performance boost which is confusing. ps i did increase the cpu. nb , ram voltage.
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Based on techpowerup your CPU got a locked multiplier. Which means your CPU is not OC friendly. BEST SOLUTION: Upgrade CPU. Here's your motherboard's supported CPU list. I would suggest choosing the A-series, just update your BIOS to F6 https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-A55-S3P-rev-11/support#support-cpu Alternative Solution: Dump your current build and buy a Ryzen 3/5 instead. Upgrading these days are not really that of a recommended thingy and the highest upgrade you can find for this board is absolute trash in performance compared to am3 and am4. Last edited: Oct 4, 2020
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just curious, how was i able to change the multiplier if its lock? Like how does CPU-Z shows that I'm running at a higher frequency?
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what do you mean? I had the option to change the multiplier to a maximum of ×47. After changing it CPU-Z reports the frequency that i changed it to (eg 34 × 100= 3400mhz) . Shouldn't it remain at 2800mhz? Page 15 Good morning, I have the intention to update my PC with one of the new gen RTX, most likely 3070, but I'd like to (and know I need to) get a new CPU too. Currently I'm using a Ryzen 5 2600, I'm thinking about 3600 3600X or 3600XT but I'm not sure about which would be good enough or even more than enough. Could you guys give me some advice about this?
Thank you!
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Depends on other factors. Like budget and redundancy. If you have a 1080p/60Hz monitor, then your current cpu is fine. If you have a 4k monitor, your current cpu is fine. It's only if going after 1080p/240Hz or 1440p/144Hz etc that the 2600 will be a little lacking. As in 5-10fps vs a 3600/X. Just how important is that last few fps? Also consider the mobo. Is it enough to take advantage of the 3600/X and higher speed ram availability. Does your budget include the possibility of extending to ram and motherboard replacements too. Still worth it for the extra few fps? Reactions: FioGermi
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What resolution and Hz is your monitor?
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Depends on other factors. Like budget and redundancy. If you have a 1080p/60Hz monitor, then your current cpu is fine. If you have a 4k monitor, your current cpu is fine. It's only if going after 1080p/240Hz or 1440p/144Hz etc that the 2600 will be a little lacking. As in 5-10fps vs a 3600/X. Just how important is that last few fps? Also consider the mobo. Is it enough to take advantage of the 3600/X and higher speed ram availability. Does your budget include the possibility of extending to ram and motherboard replacements too. Still worth it for the extra few fps? Reactions: FioGermi
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I'm using 1080p 60Hz I'm thinking to eventually move to 1440p but not that sure if need/want more than 60Hz cause I want to keep this budget friendly
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In which case a 3070 or 3080 seem over the top. You might be better to wait for a 3060 or whatever it gets called. At 60Hz you only need 60fps which reduces the cpu requirement. An AMD 3600 would work very well but with 5000 series announcing on the 8th October Id wait and see what that offers. Reactions: FioGermi |